Greenpeace Australia Pacific's Legal and Governance Advisor Katrina Bullock is interviewed by hosts Jess Hamilton and Ash Berdebes.

Heaps Better is a sit-down-and-get-it-done audio guide to turn climate anxiety into action. With hope, humour and hard facts, hosts Ash Berdebes and Jess Hamilton - two regular Australians concerned about inaction on climate change - hit up leading experts, scientists, economists and everyday heroes to get a simple, accessible and actionable answer to the question that has so many of us beat: What the heck can I do about climate change, and how can I make the biggest possible difference?